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You Can Challenge the AI

Nov 3, 2025

Green Fern

Guest

Jordan Butler

Summary

Matt Wyman sits down with Jordan Butler, a CEO and marketing pro, to talk about how AI is shaking up the world of marketing. Jordan dives into how teams can actually use AI to create better content, why critical thinking matters more than ever, and how marketing roles are changing fast. He also shares thoughts on finding the right balance between personalization and privacy, plus the key skills you’ll need to stay ahead in an AI-powered future.